January 27, 2004
an interview with
production - Salome
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I took a ride with Johann Stegmeir the other night. He was in Charlotte during rehearsals for Oedipus Rex at Children’s Theatre. He's the production designer, doing both costumes and sets. We went to a fabric store to get a notion or two, and on the way we chatted about his career, his work on the current production of Oedipus, his collaborations with Alan Poindexter, and his approach to design. You graduated from UNC-Charlotte in 1987. What happened next? I went directly on to grad school at The University of Tennessee. I finished there in 1990. I came back to Charlotte because my mother was sick. She died, and I stayed in Charlotte for about two and a half years after that. You moved to New York in 1993. Weren’t you awarded a NEA grant? Yes, it was a grant that enabled me to work with senior professional designers. It wasn’t limited to any city or country. I worked with John Conklin and Jane Greenwood. I was very interested in working with John Conklin, because he has a very specific visual vocabulary for theatre, and a type of dramaturgical approach that I was always interested in. I worked with him in 1993, and later went on to do lots of projects with him. I designed costumes on projects for which he designed the scenery, that sort of thing. How many shows have you done with Children’s Theatre? That’s a good question. Let’s think. There was Tales of Edgar Allen Poe, and Lily’s Purple Plastic Purse, The Canterville Ghost, The Crane Wife, this one. . . It would be safe to say I’ve done seven or eight, because there were shows I did only partial things for, because when Alan first started working there, he couldn’t always choose who he worked with. What’s your history with Alan Poindexter? We met in undergraduate school. We started at the same time. He was seeking a degree in acting, and I was there for design. He lived on campus. I might as well have, because I never left the design studio. That first semester, we became sort of simpatico. We had a bunch of those introduction classes together, that stuff you take when you’re starting school. Then he dropped out for a while, and he came to school to help me with a huge project. He did the all-nighters with me. That’s really when we bonded. He didn’t like not being in school. He missed this idea of the theatre. I graduated, and he returned to school, and became interested in directing. His approach to theatre had become different, and had taken on the notion of dramaturgical study. While I was in grad school, he veered courses and started directing things at school, still acting too. Then he and George Brown started talking about starting a company. I finished school and came back to Charlotte, since my mother was sick. I had not planned on coming back. It was a really eventful time in my life. We started Innovative Theatre. You taught at Winthrop University then, too, didn’t you? Yes, I was adjunct faculty for two semesters. How long have you been working on the designs for this production of Oedipus? We started talking about doing Oedipus last year. We always talk about the upcoming season, now that Alan is the artistic director at the Children’s Theatre. He’ll suggest that I read a book by one of the authors that they plan to do a project with, for instance. My collaboration with Alan isn’t only on projects that we do together. We talk about the shape and scope of the season that he’s planning, what’s going on within the season, who he’s pairing together, all sorts of things. He’s not asking for anyone’s approval, or asking what I’d like to do with him. He has a keen idea of who he’s going to have do what in the course of the season. In the case of any artist with whom you have a close creative relationship, you talk about all kinds of things. And if an event happens in the news just before a meeting about Oedipus, we may talk about it and find that it somehow leads back to what we’re working on. It’s just how these things go. Sometimes you find out more when you are talking about a current event than when you talk about the text. When the text is the subtext. Let’s talk about Oedipus Rex, the play. Is it overly simple to call it iconic? It absolutely is iconic. How do you express that in your design? Are there obvious choices there, and are they your choices? The attribution of choice gets confused in a good design. In a good working relationship, you often forget who has asked for what and how certain choices come about. I can think I want to do it a certain way - Alan will say, have you thought of this - and the whole thing will flip flop. In the end, a good idea is a good idea, and it doesn’t matter who came up with it. You arrive at the same point, the drawings get done, and the play gets cast. Then the design and the work that the director is doing with the actors start pulling on each other and creating interesting tensions. Sometimes adjustments are made, and sometimes they aren’t. That depends on the piece. As for this project, we both knew we didn’t want people in clichéd Greek-looking things, but classical elements are clearly included in the production. So are some modern elements. The play itself involves a lot of ritual, which comes through in the base costumes that everyone is in. All the performers, except for Oedipus, wear a certain sort of costume. There’s some wonderful stylized movement and vocal stylization that come through the text. It has this definite linear flow, and some great dramatic moments, and it’s clearly about something bigger than the kitchen sink. What do you think is different for you in designing for children’s shows? I don’t know that I work any differently in designing children’s shows than I do in designing grand opera. With whatever text I’m working on, I design a show that I would like to see. Luckily, I have varied interests. My design process doesn’t change for children. It doesn’t change for any audience I’m playing to. I never dumb things down. A show that’s a success transcends age. As for the work we do at the Children’s Theatre, the parents always like the shows as much as the children do. I find that you engage children in much the same way that you engage adults. I think of myself as the audience. I sit through it more than most people, and the same things that you do to theatrically entertain adults work for children. A hilarious costume is a hilarious costume, and a serious moment is a serious moment. You have age parameters, certainly, of 12 and older, or recommended for 3 year olds to 8 year olds, but that’s a really broad span. A great piece of theatre crosses age lines, gender lines, and ethnic lines. It not only entertains the audience - it enhances their lives. You also do a lot of design for opera. What’s the difference in designing a classic or classical piece? People come to these things with a lot of baggage. In opera, people believe that they’ve already seen the definitive production. That usually means that they want something old-fashioned. I’m not the person you come to for that. That’s not to say that I haven’t done shows that were more traditional than not, but I never come to a project thinking that there’s a set way to do A Doll’s House or la Bohème. That’s somebody else’s idea of how it should be. Say there’s a scene with a red dress. Sometimes, the red dress works. Sometimes, what you’re really thirsty for is a blue dress. When you see that blue dress, it’s a moment of ecstasy. What else are you currently working on? I’m working on a new production of A Streetcar Named Desire, the Andre Previn opera at the Washington Opera. I’m designing costumes for that. Michael Yergen is doing the sets. Thanks for taking the time to talk.
~ Lydia Arnold
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